Grateful Dead Live at Musikhalle on 1972-04-29
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- 1972-04-29 ( check for other copies)
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Playin' In The Band, Sugaree, Mr. Charlie, Black Throated Wind, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Big Boss Man, Jack Straw, Loser, Chinatown Shuffle, Me & My Uncle, Big Railroad Blues, Good Lovin', Casey Jones Greatest Story Ever Told, He's Gone, Next Time You See Me, Dark Star-> Sugar Magnolia-> Caution (Do Not Stop on Tracks)-> Who Do You Love, E: One More Saturday Night, E: Uncle John's Band*
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AUD MR (poss. Uher Reel Machine at 4.75 cm/sec)> 2 reels> cass> SB Live!> .wav> .shn> CD-R; EAC > SHN (seekable) by Matt Vernon from eurodead.net seed disks
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- 2004-04-12 13:20:52
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- gd72-04-29.aud.vernon.5250.sbeok.shnf
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- AUD MR (poss. Uher Reel Machine at 4.75 cm/sec)> 2 reels> cass> SB Live!> .wav> .shn> CD-R
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- Hamburg, Germany
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- Musikhalle
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- 1972
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Reviewer:
Anthony Brakus
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August 20, 2023
Subject: Hall Acoustics
Subject: Hall Acoustics
Don't know what the deal is with this venue but it has fantastic acoustics. Big, open, echoey (but not too much), rich, whole sound. I'm so glad that I was "forced" into listening to this aud, it has character that was lacking in the boards. I noticed that the taper is in the comment thread... Thanks brother!👍
All I know, I could not leave her there...
All I know, I could not leave her there...
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Anonymous
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May 23, 2023
Subject: The Sorrows, The Sorrows
Subject: The Sorrows, The Sorrows
Contrary to popular belief, the man in the audience isn't yelling "More drums". He is yelling "Sturm und Drang" the German literary movement of the 18th Century that gave us Goethe.
Reviewer:
JPD3
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December 24, 2016
Subject: SWEET
Subject: SWEET
Thanks Wolsander. Fine job. I had this tape in Alaska in the early 1980's. Obtained from Wolfgang Schoeller.
Reviewer:
wolsander
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December 20, 2014
Subject: Uher 4400 in the Musikhalle
Subject: Uher 4400 in the Musikhalle
Hello to all.
I am the guy, who recorded this concert in the Musikhalle in 1972. After all these years, now I'm glad, that so many peoples listened to them.
Thanks
I am the guy, who recorded this concert in the Musikhalle in 1972. After all these years, now I'm glad, that so many peoples listened to them.
Thanks
Reviewer:
pifpaf
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July 21, 2013
Subject: Musikhalle
Subject: Musikhalle
Hi,
the avenue in Hamburg called "Die Musikhalle" is a jewel in the center of the city. Built 1908 it was the biggest building dedicated only to music in that time in Germany. The acustics are awe-inspiring.
the avenue in Hamburg called "Die Musikhalle" is a jewel in the center of the city. Built 1908 it was the biggest building dedicated only to music in that time in Germany. The acustics are awe-inspiring.
Reviewer:
chris phillips
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June 8, 2013 (edited)
Subject: very enjoyable
Subject: very enjoyable
Good Lovin'. DS and Caution are tight.
Reviewer:
TDCarowindz
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April 29, 2013
Subject: aud? really?
Subject: aud? really?
this recording sound better than most matrix files. its europe '72...that alone makes it worth five stars
Reviewer:
peasant
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August 6, 2012
Subject: Pretty good quality
Subject: Pretty good quality
I beg to differ from several below. The quality of this recording is not bad at all; in fact it is pretty good. Oh, it may not be the brightest recording and lacks a little "snap." But it is all there and very enjoyable.
Reviewer:
tony45347
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July 13, 2011
Subject: !
Subject: !
thanks for everything guys!
Reviewer:
luvthedead
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May 13, 2010
Subject: amazing dark star
Subject: amazing dark star
the sound quality of this ain't bad at all. and most of the tracks are really tight.
what a beautiful concert!
ps- and dark star is just brilliant.
what a beautiful concert!
ps- and dark star is just brilliant.
Reviewer:
Cliff Hucker
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April 29, 2010 (edited)
Subject: Best audience recording of the Europe '72 Tour
Subject: Best audience recording of the Europe '72 Tour
This rather interesting performance starts out quite a bit differently from the shows that precede it, with a nice jazzy and exploratory 9+ minute Playin' in the Band. However the balance of the first set is not noteworthy and with the exception of a dynamite rendition of Good Lovin' is somewhat less compelling than some of the other first sets of the tour.
Sadly both the AUD and SBD sources, as well as the subsequent matrices are fair to poor in quality. Otherwise this show would certainly garner a higher score. In this case this Vernon remastered audience recording, though still somewhat of a challenge to enjoy, is superior to the muddy soundboard recordings that circulate and is likely the finest AUD of the tour.
This is unfortunate because the second set really heats up with another excellent Dark Star. This 30 minute spacey performance, though not quite as exceptional as several of the masterpieces from earlier in the month, soars from the opening notes. This performance features some dynamite interplay during the extended pre-verse theme intro, with some rather cool percussion sounds. Though much of this version is atonal, there are a couple of dynamite jazzy passages, with a nice Feelin' Groovy Jam starting about 7:20. There is also a fantastic jazzy segment loosely based around a Caution theme that starts around 22:00. Keith in particular really shines on this performance, contributing some of his finest work on this tour.
The segue out of Dark Star is atypically abrupt as the band leaves deep space for a particularly hot version of Sugar Magnolia, followed by another excellent performance of Caution. It's really a shame about the sound quality of this one. (94 pts*)
*An excellent performance that would garner a score in the upper 90's if only the sound quality was better
Sadly both the AUD and SBD sources, as well as the subsequent matrices are fair to poor in quality. Otherwise this show would certainly garner a higher score. In this case this Vernon remastered audience recording, though still somewhat of a challenge to enjoy, is superior to the muddy soundboard recordings that circulate and is likely the finest AUD of the tour.
This is unfortunate because the second set really heats up with another excellent Dark Star. This 30 minute spacey performance, though not quite as exceptional as several of the masterpieces from earlier in the month, soars from the opening notes. This performance features some dynamite interplay during the extended pre-verse theme intro, with some rather cool percussion sounds. Though much of this version is atonal, there are a couple of dynamite jazzy passages, with a nice Feelin' Groovy Jam starting about 7:20. There is also a fantastic jazzy segment loosely based around a Caution theme that starts around 22:00. Keith in particular really shines on this performance, contributing some of his finest work on this tour.
The segue out of Dark Star is atypically abrupt as the band leaves deep space for a particularly hot version of Sugar Magnolia, followed by another excellent performance of Caution. It's really a shame about the sound quality of this one. (94 pts*)
*An excellent performance that would garner a score in the upper 90's if only the sound quality was better
Reviewer:
Smerdyakov
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February 14, 2010
Subject: The stuff that dreams are made of....
Subject: The stuff that dreams are made of....
Simply a magical recording.
This AUD recording is a winner all the way around. Who ever recorded this should get a medal. The playing here is uniformly stellar to boot. As a comic aside the dude that keeps yelling out for "White Rabbit" is pretty hilarious.
This AUD recording is a winner all the way around. Who ever recorded this should get a medal. The playing here is uniformly stellar to boot. As a comic aside the dude that keeps yelling out for "White Rabbit" is pretty hilarious.
Reviewer:
lazylightning1953
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December 6, 2009
Subject: musichall-4-29-72,ham,ger.
Subject: musichall-4-29-72,ham,ger.
Reviewer:
thebone
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May 26, 2009
Subject: European Equation
Subject: European Equation
17 min. Good Lovin' + 30 min. Dark Star + 22 min. Caution = 5 stars!!!
Reviewer:
JustAFloatingSage
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May 25, 2009
Subject: LoveTheEuropeTour
Subject: LoveTheEuropeTour
Note to self:
Dark Star....yes!!!!
Caution....yes!!!!
Dark Star....yes!!!!
Caution....yes!!!!
Reviewer:
Silverstein
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April 16, 2009 (edited)
Subject: The Crowd
Subject: The Crowd
This really is a nice audience recording. there are some out there. One from LA in '71 I think. Not the Hollywood bowl, but from the Palladium? Anyway, there are a few.
Did anyone attend these shows in Germany? Listening to this audience recording it's easier to hear that it seems like the audience wasn't totally familiar with the Dead's sets back then. There's a guy just before Dark Star who says, "we want drums," which isn't something people would say in the US would they? And there's no response when China Cat is started. And a low key response to Dark Star revving up. Could be wrong, but it seems that this is an audience that's getting to know the Dead. For some reason I really liked that idea. It's nice to listen to people who are perhaps being completely f*cking blown away for the first time. Maybe checking out "this band from America" and leaving the hall saying, "God almighty, things make a little more sense in the world now."
Did anyone attend these shows in Germany? Listening to this audience recording it's easier to hear that it seems like the audience wasn't totally familiar with the Dead's sets back then. There's a guy just before Dark Star who says, "we want drums," which isn't something people would say in the US would they? And there's no response when China Cat is started. And a low key response to Dark Star revving up. Could be wrong, but it seems that this is an audience that's getting to know the Dead. For some reason I really liked that idea. It's nice to listen to people who are perhaps being completely f*cking blown away for the first time. Maybe checking out "this band from America" and leaving the hall saying, "God almighty, things make a little more sense in the world now."
Reviewer:
themuscneverstops
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May 31, 2007
Subject: unbelieveable
Subject: unbelieveable
this show is unbelieveably amazing and its in such good qulaity. the tape is great, but the show just rocks. the playing is consistently awesome throughout the whole thing and it just rocks. highlights for me are sugaree, big rr blues, and sugar mag.
Reviewer:
laptaper
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March 31, 2007
Subject: Better than the board
Subject: Better than the board
I still have it, but the SBD is sitting on my backup HD while this is on the RAID that I use for everyday playing. It's clearer and more dynamic. As far as the audience goes, I miss the attentive audiences I was part of at jazz and rock shows while living in the Czech Republic. Back here I'll often be more at a concert I tape the day after listening to the recording, than I was the night before at the actual show.
Reviewer:
Stargazin
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May 18, 2006
Subject: considering...
Subject: considering...
since all the gorgeous soundboards from the Europe tour that used to be here (4/14, 4/17, 5/10, 5/11,, 5/13, 5/16,etc...) are all gone now, presumably to be released by GDM at some unspecified future date, or otherwise held back from our greedy ears, consider yourself lucky to hear this high-quality audience recording! Playin is a hot opener. Listen to the German audience... they warm up as the show goes on, especially for Pig! Loser is a winner, to be expected. The crowd recognizes Dark Star... and the boys don't disappoint, of course. This one is worth a download, it sounds pretty good.
Five stars for being Free!
Five stars for being Free!
Reviewer:
tamedturtle
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March 15, 2006
Subject: now this is what an aud should sound like
Subject: now this is what an aud should sound like
if all aud were like this they would be preferable alittle crowd and distance to give the feel of a show but a balanced sound and no idiots clapping right into the mic show was decent got to love the euro 72 dark stars other than that great tour but nothing above average for the tour but killer sound
get just because it is the best aud ive heard so far on here if any one else knows of some killer aud let it be known
get just because it is the best aud ive heard so far on here if any one else knows of some killer aud let it be known
Reviewer:
stuffyhead
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February 11, 2006
Subject: pristine!
Subject: pristine!
Amazing show! I wonder if they used these tapes for some "Ace" tracks"????
"Hey yoo! Grateful-Dead -guy! Play your Truckin' song!!"
"Hey yoo! Grateful-Dead -guy! Play your Truckin' song!!"
Reviewer:
Stefan W.
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January 27, 2006
Subject: Good recording Quality, but...
Subject: Good recording Quality, but...
This is a "typical" German (or "non English speaking") recording: the sound is perfect, but it´s clear, that the audience doesn´t really understand the lyrics, as there is only reaction at the beginning and the end of the songs, but not while they are played. That´s sad (especially as I´m German myself), but can be a reason to download the concert as well, if you just want a clear performance of the Dead (which you´ll get), without "disturbing" audience noise. Really nothing bad to say about the recording and the performance (5*) but the energy of the audience lowers the "fun-aspect"(3*)
Reviewer:
kctomato
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December 10, 2004 (edited)
Subject: next time you see me
Subject: next time you see me
Definitely better than a 4 but the recording brings it down.
Other than the Dark Star..
Ok Ive listened to all three recordings and even though this isnt the greatest recording it really brings out the sound on "next time you see me" better than the degraded sdb recording.
This version of NTYSM also has more a slow grind blues sound. Great performance of this Pig Tune - great harmonica solo.
For Black Throated Wind fans this is a good early one.
Other than the Dark Star..
Ok Ive listened to all three recordings and even though this isnt the greatest recording it really brings out the sound on "next time you see me" better than the degraded sdb recording.
This version of NTYSM also has more a slow grind blues sound. Great performance of this Pig Tune - great harmonica solo.
For Black Throated Wind fans this is a good early one.
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